srsly?

[green]

http://cashima.dreamwidth.org/2104.html

What is it with fandom and attention whores? Does everyone have ADD these days or does fandom draw in an incredibly large amount of people with autistic traits? I seriously wonder whether they don't give a damn that they're pushing their own selfish little problems onto others or actually cannot perceive their self-absorption at all. That's a basic trait of autism.

...I lost my cool. a little. I don't think I'm out of line, though.

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[softestbullet]

AAHHHH. Man, no, you're not out of line. I can't believe she's upset about your calling her "immature" for, oh, BEING HATEFUL AND WRONG ABOUT ENTIRE GROUPS OF PEOPLE. DDD:

[trobadora]

Wow, WTF?!

*hugs*

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[green]

INORITE? >:(

[green]

I was keeping my cool until she said If your mission is to convince me that autists aren't attention whores or selfish or self-absorbed or something I can't stand you're wasting your time because I don't believe either of those things. Now I'm just pissed off.

[green]

Which... might have meant the opposite of what it sounded like? I don't even know anymore.

[em_h]

THANK YOU.

[green]

LOL You're welcome. I don't think I'm doing a very good job of making her see the actual problem though. I'm so bad at arguing. /o\

[schemingreader]

Do you want other people to comment and pile on her? Because I started to comment...OK a little angrily maybe...and then realized you might not want your whole flist to go over there and tear her head off.

[green]

She's whining that two people commented. LOL! I said I didn't ask anyone to comment. You're allowed to do whatever you want, of course. :)

[apostrophe]

FLAMES. FACE. GRRRRRRRR >:(

[coolrainkiss]

ehhhhhh pretend I used the account you know me by. OOPS.

[green]

Same here. And she's being deliberately obtuse about her views and it just. UGH.

[green]

<333333

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[gloss]

AMEN.

(btw: You and green are two of my favorite people. *smushing you*)

[schemingreader]

I read through her whole journal. She's had it up since the end of March. All of her entries are complaining about her fandom. One nice, patient person has commented. By accidentally saying something utterly horrible and ableist she's attracted all kinds of attention! I doubt extremely that she's going to edit her post. Why should she? She wants attention.

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[green]

*HUGS*

[green]

She's now commented to tell me she's reported me. For ... speaking my mind? IDEK.

[schemingreader]

To whom?

[green]

I think she means to DW. *hands*

[coolrainkiss]

lol, man, this is srsly so ridic. Does she really think the DW admins are going to do anything? Has she read the Diversity Statement page? If anything, they're either going to sit back and lol at her or agree with you and pretty much do nothing. Especially since it wasn't a mob or a unified attack or whatever else she thinks it is. The only problems in the ENTIRE post + comments was her ableist language and her refusal to listen. >:(

[green]

Yes, exactly. I know I was not thinking with a clear head while I was arguing with her, but I think I did make my point. She's just being lol defensive. Which I would have done myself in my first year or so of fandom. But I don't feel bad for her, because HOLY SHIT IS THAT POST ABLEIST.

[coolrainkiss]

Back when I was 14/15, I totally had similar arguments where I was defensive and didn't listen AT ALL and got butthurt, so I get where she's coming from, I guess, but... I was barely a teenager? And I realize now what an asshole I was, which is what she's being now. And she doesn't realize it. Or, you know, doesn't care.

Also, I really love that message in her sticky post. "I don't have to be nice! I have opinions! I welcome opinions! BLAH BLAH I'M AGAINST THE CULT OF NICE" and then people call her on her shit, and suddenly she is being mobbed, Green. MOBBED!!!!!!!!

[green]

MOBBED BY A TOTAL OF FOUR PEOPLE. Kat, I've been in Harry Potter fandom. This person hasn't lived to see a mob.

But yeah, defensiveness. I understand it, but it doesn't make me any less angry. >:(

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[softestbullet]

What? Awww. :)

Hey guess what! A couple of days ago I realized that I have ADD. So... good to find out that I'm a self-absorbed "attention whore." Hadn't heard that stereotype before.

[em_h]

Well, she's pretty resistant to seeing the problem. I don't think there's much you could have done, really; the hope is probably more that other people reading the exchanges will get a clue.

I just tried to post a response myself, but she's now set her journal so that only people on her access list can comment.